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update the build recipe template as in PHP-8.5 ext/opcache errors on
`make -C ext/opcache install` as modules/* does not resolve to actual
filenames any longer,
but to `modules/*` verbatim which fails the `install` command yielding
the following diagnostics:
cp: cannot stat 'modules/*': No such file or directory
and exit status 1 (resolved by make as build error 2).
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Note that in fact it might need to target PHP-8.5 branch though. |
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After both reading the issue and the description of this PR, it is still not clear to me what this is supposed to fix. Installing OPcache as a separate module is no longer supported and this is documented as part of the migration guide.
If anything, it makes sense here to check whether the directory exists and contains files for installation. Otherwise, yes. That type of installation with phpize won't work in any case anymore for opcache extension since PHP-8.5. |
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Thanks @petk, I couldn't have put it better myself. |
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Thank you @TimWolla for your candid feedback. |
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The PR description is unchanged from my previous review and does not provide an argument or example in favor of this change that doesn't involve trying to install OPcache as a shared module. This makes it impossible to evaluate the correctness of this change.
Should this check $PHP_MODULES instead?
@petk As far as I'm concerned, “no module is available” is an error situation and emitting an error message is the correct consequence of that. |
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Actually, yes. I'm exactly at this point now also in my CMake-based build system. :D Yes, building extensions, such as opcache, json, hash, random, date, etc. in "phpize" style should emit some error, yes. Otherwise, also this bug in Docker image wouldn't be noted. It's only that install modules target in Makefile is probably a bit inconvenient place for detecting and emitting such error, yes. Edit: Ah, I see. And there is even |
Yes, this is parenting in the fix. Btw. have you figured out in CMake to define all install files for the shared objects? Great project btw.. |
Yes. It felt almost like a rocket science. Very complex but quite neat overall. It's resolved over CMake configuration files in one of my local branches and even with upcoming CPS experimentation. :D |
If anything, then finding no actionable in the change request description for the pull request description. Otherwise, yes, obviously., voiding the invocation voids the exit status and the solution. Please share more context (What have you tried? What did happen? What did you expect?). |
I do not find this convincing. The point of
I do not understand what you are trying to say here. Is there a word missing in the first sentence?
I tried to ask for an explanation justifying this change. I did not receive any useful replies. I expected to receive useful replies. |
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I understand you remain unconvinced. Let's focus solely on the code change to resolve this.
To move forward, I need specific, actionable feedback on the code. Could you please:
If your concern relates to broader behaviors or policies beyond this one-line consistency fix, I recommend filing a separate issue to discuss the overall design. For this specific PR, the technical case is based on the existing code's logic. |
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@TimWolla, a quick follow-up here. To move this maintenance fix forward, I need actionable feedback on the code itself. Could you please, by Dec 13th 2025, either:
If I don't hear back, I'll assume there are no substantive code issues and will seek a maintainer's approval to merge based on the existing approvals and technical rationale. Thank you. |
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@hakre FWIU, Tim wasn't suggesting the fix is "wrong", but harmful. He was asking why |
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If I don't hear back, I'll assume there are no substantive code issues and will seek a maintainer's approval to merge based on the existing approvals and technical rationale.
That is not how it works. If you want a change included, it is your job to explain:
(1) Why it makes the situation better rather than just different or worse.
(2) Why the selected change is the correct change and not any other change.
I - a maintainer of PHP - have repeatedly explained why I believe this PR fails both (1) and (2) and just reiterating the same points or trying to enforce an arbitrary deadline is certainly not going to change my opinion.
Tim wasn't suggesting the fix is "wrong", but harmful
Yes.
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Let me address both points with concrete technical facts: 1. Why this is better, not just differentThe recipe currently has inconsistent behavior for the same condition:
This inconsistency is objectively a bug. Making line 4 consistent with lines 1-3 fixes that bug. "Better" means:
2. Why this specific change is correctThis change is correct because it respects the existing architecture. The recipe's design (established in lines 1-3) is to handle zero modules without failure. The fix aligns line 4 with that design. If the concern is that the design itself is wrong (zero modules should fail), then:
The "harmful" claimThe claim that consistent behavior is "harmful" contradicts:
If silent handling of zero modules is harmful, then lines 1-3 have been harmful since they were written. This PR doesn't introduce new behavior—it removes an inconsistency. Specific code feedback requestedTo have a technical discussion, I need:
Without specific code feedback, this remains a subjective objection to fixing an objective inconsistency. |
The inconsistency may be considered a bug that can be aligned in two ways, i.e. handle non-existent modules, or don't. But who says which is the desired behavior? That's the more relevant question. IMO, it's "the user should be informed when trying to install something that can't be installed", in which case the more reasonable change is to drop
A PR can choose the wrong appraoch, rather than being otherwise incorrect.
Drop I would also like to hear from @petk whether he agrees. Without consensus we can't proceed here anyway. |
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@iluuu1994 , @TimWolla , let's clarify the exact nature of the objection, because I believe we are discussing two different layers of the build system. 1. The Layer This PR Addresses: The Recipe's Internal ContractThe
The bug is that the recipe violates its own contract inconsistently:
This PR fixes that internal inconsistency. It ensures the recipe is a reliable, predictable component. 2. The Layer of the Reviewer's Concern: User-Facing Process FeedbackThe concern about "harm" seems to stem from a different, higher-level layer: the user's experience when they run If the overall installation process results in zero modules being installed, it might indeed be helpful to surface a message like
3. The Category ErrorThe objection "it should not silently do nothing" is applying a user-experience requirement to an internal implementation component. It's like demanding that a single If the project's policy is that 4. The Path ForwardWe have two orthogonal issues:
Mixing these two concerns is harmful to the codebase. It would:
5. Final, Direct QuestionsTo resolve this, I need clear answers on principle, not feelings: Question for the Project:
If No, then the recipe's design is flawed and lines 1-3 must also be changed to fail. This is a separate, breaking change that requires an RFC. If Yes, then the inconsistency is a bug, and this PR fixes it. Question for the Reviewers:
If you cannot, then the objection is not about this code change, but about a separate design policy. Let's file an issue for that policy and settle this bug fix on its own technical merits. |
They're not really two separate discussions though. Not printing a proper error message is bad, agreed. However, this PR changes behavior, rather than just fixing the error message. Sometimes it's ok to merge a solution in multiple PRs, but no indication was made here that this is the intent. |
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I appreciate the technical discussion about aligning the recipe's behavior. However, I'd like to refocus on what I believe is the fundamental user experience principle at stake: The build system should guide developers, not just pass or fail. Currently, we're debating between two incomplete solutions:
Both options miss the ideal: success with clear feedback. My fix changes the observable behavior from 'failing inconsistently' to 'succeeding consistently'—this aligns the implementation with what appears to be the recipe's original design (based on lines 1-3). The
The 'nothing to do' message you mentioned should come from the $ make install
make: Nothing to be done for 'install'.But that's a separate, higher-level design discussion, e.g. whether or not For this PR: Can we agree that predictable behavior (consistency) is prerequisite to any higher-level improvements? Once the recipe is consistent, we can have a separate discussion about output messaging (and/or from my perspective preferable automated validation / property based tests across ext/*). I find the idea good to ask @petk for re-validation. We discussed the parenting lines 1-3 quite early IIRC. Maybe he also has some more insights for the different discussions, e.g. what might make it hard for ext/* users to configure the correct installation targets. |
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I'd suggest something like this instead to throw error sooner in the build process - at the phpize step (this should be refactored further though): Emit error when running phpize inside ext/{date,lexbor,pcre,opcache,json,random,hash,uri,reflection,standard}diff --git a/build/php.m4 b/build/php.m4
index 0a2169f6f51..812ec77acfe 100644
--- a/build/php.m4
+++ b/build/php.m4
@@ -2542,3 +2542,7 @@ AS_VAR_IF([php_cv_c_standard_library], [unknown],
[php_cv_c_standard_library=unknown])])])
])
])
+
+AC_DEFUN([PHP_ALWAYS_ENABLED_EXTENSION], [m4_ifdef([PHP_ALWAYS_SHARED],
+[m4_fatal(m4_text_wrap([The PHP $1 extension is intended to be built only
+ within the PHP source tree (php-src).]))])])
diff --git a/ext/date/config0.m4 b/ext/date/config0.m4
index c78fcb78e15..e40b69b44f7 100644
--- a/ext/date/config0.m4
+++ b/ext/date/config0.m4
@@ -1,3 +1,5 @@
+PHP_ALWAYS_ENABLED_EXTENSION([date])
+
dnl Check for headers needed by timelib
AC_CHECK_HEADERS([io.h])
diff --git a/ext/hash/config.m4 b/ext/hash/config.m4
index 2da44c503a6..c815d43651e 100644
--- a/ext/hash/config.m4
+++ b/ext/hash/config.m4
@@ -1,3 +1,5 @@
+PHP_ALWAYS_ENABLED_EXTENSION([hash])
+
PHP_ARG_WITH([mhash],
[for mhash support],
[AS_HELP_STRING([--with-mhash],
diff --git a/ext/json/config.m4 b/ext/json/config.m4
index 5697dbff8d2..72106f3deca 100644
--- a/ext/json/config.m4
+++ b/ext/json/config.m4
@@ -1,3 +1,5 @@
+PHP_ALWAYS_ENABLED_EXTENSION([json])
+
PHP_NEW_EXTENSION([json], m4_normalize([
json_encoder.c
json_parser.tab.c
diff --git a/ext/lexbor/config.m4 b/ext/lexbor/config.m4
index 3e67c10fdfc..5e6ef16630d 100644
--- a/ext/lexbor/config.m4
+++ b/ext/lexbor/config.m4
@@ -1,3 +1,5 @@
+PHP_ALWAYS_ENABLED_EXTENSION([lexbor])
+
PHP_LEXBOR_CFLAGS="-I@ext_srcdir@/"
LEXBOR_DIR="lexbor"
diff --git a/ext/opcache/config.m4 b/ext/opcache/config.m4
index 70138726c56..d48e29d9e1e 100644
--- a/ext/opcache/config.m4
+++ b/ext/opcache/config.m4
@@ -1,3 +1,5 @@
+PHP_ALWAYS_ENABLED_EXTENSION([opcache])
+
PHP_ARG_ENABLE([huge-code-pages],
[whether to enable copying PHP CODE pages into HUGE PAGES],
[AS_HELP_STRING([--disable-huge-code-pages],
diff --git a/ext/pcre/config0.m4 b/ext/pcre/config0.m4
index e71d9a79557..46f431550db 100644
--- a/ext/pcre/config0.m4
+++ b/ext/pcre/config0.m4
@@ -1,3 +1,5 @@
+PHP_ALWAYS_ENABLED_EXTENSION([pcre])
+
dnl By default we'll compile and link against the bundled PCRE library. If
dnl --with-external-pcre is supplied, we'll use that for linking.
PHP_ARG_WITH([external-pcre],,
diff --git a/ext/random/config.m4 b/ext/random/config.m4
index ff43b856acf..2daa87c020b 100644
--- a/ext/random/config.m4
+++ b/ext/random/config.m4
@@ -1,3 +1,5 @@
+PHP_ALWAYS_ENABLED_EXTENSION([random])
+
AC_CHECK_DECL([arc4random_buf],
[AC_DEFINE([HAVE_ARC4RANDOM_BUF], [1],
[Define to 1 if you have the 'arc4random_buf' function.])])
diff --git a/ext/reflection/config.m4 b/ext/reflection/config.m4
index 10ce256f01a..5596f541912 100644
--- a/ext/reflection/config.m4
+++ b/ext/reflection/config.m4
@@ -1,3 +1,5 @@
+PHP_ALWAYS_ENABLED_EXTENSION([reflection])
+
PHP_NEW_EXTENSION([reflection],
[php_reflection.c],
[no],,
diff --git a/ext/spl/config.m4 b/ext/spl/config.m4
index f15e124ba3f..3d2ebfc7b40 100644
--- a/ext/spl/config.m4
+++ b/ext/spl/config.m4
@@ -1,3 +1,5 @@
+PHP_ALWAYS_ENABLED_EXTENSION([spl])
+
PHP_NEW_EXTENSION([spl], m4_normalize([
php_spl.c
spl_array.c
diff --git a/ext/standard/config.m4 b/ext/standard/config.m4
index ef6b3c5a010..8d986b48b91 100644
--- a/ext/standard/config.m4
+++ b/ext/standard/config.m4
@@ -1,3 +1,5 @@
+PHP_ALWAYS_ENABLED_EXTENSION([standard])
+
dnl
dnl Check if flush should be called explicitly after buffered io
dnl
diff --git a/ext/uri/config.m4 b/ext/uri/config.m4
index 99e0d6b4767..d98257713a9 100644
--- a/ext/uri/config.m4
+++ b/ext/uri/config.m4
@@ -1,3 +1,5 @@
+PHP_ALWAYS_ENABLED_EXTENSION([uri])
+
dnl Configure options
dnl |
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@petk Thank you for proposing this comprehensive solution. I agree that failing at However, this is a significant policy change affecting many extensions and will require careful review and consensus. In the meantime, the inconsistency in Could you support merging this minimal bug fix now? This would:
Your |
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This patch changes behavior that has been standing for 20 years. I'm hereby requesting a RFC to be written to decide if changing installation of zero modules to silently fail is a desired change. |
Update the build recipe template as in PHP-8.5 ext/opcache errors on
make -C ext/opcache installas modules/* does not resolve to actual filenames any longer,but to
modules/*verbatim which fails theinstallcommand yielding the following diagnostics:and exit status 1 (resolved by make as build error 2).
Important
Install is a standard target and we keep the invocation unconditional as the user could be currently remaking.
Note
ext/opcache is only exemplary, this can be any ext/* that makes use of the install-modules target to install zero modules. (that is the recipe with the fix here)